But Tell Me Again How Criminals Dont Follow Laws

Criminals don't follow laws.

End yelling for stricter gun laws every time something like this happens.

If a criminal wants to commit a crime, they will do then because they put a centre finger in the air to the laws.

Just have a expect at Chicago.


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Aristo
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No no no, we should punish millions of gun owners and potential gun owners because the acts of this one single person.


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Godfather1
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"Locks are made for honest people."

- my Grandfather, many years ago


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TigerMyth36
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They believe they are somehow going to be able to remove 200 million guns from the country and finish any additional guns from coming in. Just like the blindside upwards chore they have washed with the drug war and clearing.


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atom1505
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Non that I disagree with your point, but your premise is a faux positive.

The existence of criminals does not mean laws practise non work. While laws obviously do not eliminate all criminals, they deter many.


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Godfather1
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The existence of criminals does not mean laws do non work. While laws patently do not eliminate all criminals, they deter many.

Y'all're missing his point.

If a person is hell-bent on killing other people, he's going to find a mode to do information technology - laws and prohibitions to the contrary notwithstanding.


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I concur. I am not saying that laws don't work. I am merely stating that someone that wants information technology plenty tin and volition commit offense.

Making gun laws stricter merely hurt people that want to own guns for personal protection and recreational utilise.

Someone that wants to use a gun for evil will do so regardless of whatsoever rule/law set in identify.


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atom1505
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I agree. Such has been the case forever. We were discussing this in another thread, but history does show that legislation tin exist effective at preventing some parts of human nature from manifesting themselves (apparently non entirely). I'yard non suggesting further legislation is the answer for the topic at paw, only just acknowledging the point that it shouldn't be completely written off because criminals disobey laws regardless. While no legislation would eliminate these atrocities in their entirety, I'm non sure that I could accept the position that legislation wouldn't prevent some of them.


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Big Scrub TX
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If a person is hell-bent on killing other people, he'due south going to find a fashion to practice information technology - laws and prohibitions to the contrary however.

Good. Then presumably you agree that the Patriot Act and other violations of our civil liberties will not actually deter terrorists who are truly determined to kill us.


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Godfather1
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Then presumably yous agree that the Patriot Human action and other violations of our civil liberties will not actually deter terrorists who are truly adamant to kill us.

Uh, nice try, but I've never argued otherwise.


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Big Scrub TX
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Uh, prissy try, only I've never argued otherwise.

it'south not a endeavour. I'm glad you lot are agreeing. Now, convince some of these other people to agree too.


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Godfather1
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Now, convince some of these other people to agree also.

I don't know where some of yous people are getting the thought that the Patriot Act is widely supported on this board. Everything I've seen indicates a groundswell of opposition to information technology.


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Large Scrub TX
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I don't know where some of you people are getting the idea that the Patriot Deed is widely supported on this board. Everything I've seen indicates a groundswell of opposition to it.

In that location's a massive pro-Trump bias on the board...and he is supportive of all aspects of the surveillance state (bizarrely, given the well-nigh-constant accusations of deep-land action against him/his supporters.)


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canteen
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No no no, nosotros should punish millions of gun owners and potential gun owners because the acts of this one unmarried person.

lol

its funny

because truth


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Godfather1
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massive pro-Trump bias on the board

=/= agreeing with everything he does.

You were as pro-Obama every bit they came. What was your reaction when Snowden made his revelations about the Obama NSA?


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I understand your signal. However, the fact that legislation was ALREADY in place, being it a gun free zone, speaks against certain points.

Again, I reference Chicago and the high gun control laws there.

I understand the need for legislation/laws, but in the minds of criminals, it doesn't matter if yous have 1 or 1000, they will break them if they desire.


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Big Scrub TX
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=/= like-minded with everything he does.

Well, actually, it usually does. That's the very MO of that crowd.

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You were as pro-Obama as they came.

You must accept me confused with someone else.

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What was your reaction when Snowden made his revelations about the Obama NSA?

I take been massively pro-Snowden since day 1. I actually believe, based on the obvious evidence, of the uniparty theory in which "both sides" outwardly agitate over shite like this but so ultimately continually ramp and extend it. That is why I would have wanted someone like a Rand Paul as POTUS. Contrast that with the Trumpkins: they merits to want to "drain the swamp" because of the uniparty, but in reality, they defend to the hilt virtually every single action of their beloved leader who is taking the swamp to new heights.


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Godfather1
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Well, actually, it normally does. That'southward the very MO of that crowd.

Nice generalization.

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You were as pro-Obama every bit they came.
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You must take me confused with someone else.

Really, I'm pretty sure I don't. But hey, whatever.

This post was edited on ii/15 at ane:25 pm


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Big Scrub TX
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Actually, I'k pretty sure I don't. But hey, any.

I'1000 open you lot providing even a shred of evidence that I was "equally pro-Obama as they come".

It's really not worth arguing over, you but are confusing me with someone else. (I'm not anti-Obama either.)


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Godfather1
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I'm open up you providing even a shred of evidence that I was "every bit pro-Obama as they come".

It'due south really non worth arguing over,


You're right. It'southward not worth digging back two years into your postal service history to bear witness a worthless signal only to have you deny what the posts would hateful. And you know that.


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